The latest episode of the C13Originals Long May They Run podcast is titled “Back Woods and Front Woods.” This is the second-to-last episode of the season and it explores the cultural and political environment of Burlington, Vermont in which Phish came of age.

Season one of the series, which is hosted by Relix editor-in-chief Dean Budnick, explores the music and culture of Phish. “Back Woods and Front Woods” shares the story of Phish’s Vermont connection and features a cameo by the original Claymation Harry Hood. In addition to all four band members, Ben and Jerry’s namesake Ben Cohen also makes an appearance talking about the initial allure of Burlington. Related topics include Phish Food ice cream, the origins of the WaterWheel Foundation and Jon Fishman’s effort to set a world record for largest cowbell ensemble. Trey Anastasio also discusses the impact of New York City, drawing a direct line between West Side Story and his improvisational ethos.  Political reporters Katy Tur and Jake Sherman also lend their perspectives. In the clip below, Tur describes how the music of Phish provided solace against the onslaught of noise and aggression, while covering Donald Trump campaign rallies.

Listen to Long May They Run here.